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Cultivated bees vs natural pollinators - vegans will often argue that cultivated bees outcompete and pressure local pollinators who are often better at pollination. This is absolutely true. However, local pollinators dont and cant exist in large enough numbers to support modern agriculture's use of massive, seasonal monocultures. Some modern cultivated ag requires modern cultivated bees which require seasonal feeding and honey removal. It's a system unto itself which has no natural analog. If you are going to draw from the end product you have to accept the entire system. We are not, because bees do not pollinate grasses. Grass is wind-pollinated. Look it up. Grass-fed beef can exist without bees.
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